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So, went to see Sherlock Holmes with [livejournal.com profile] trialia tonight. And boy, you guys weren't lying about the bro yay. But how come no one said anything about the entirely unsubtle d/s dynamic? It's not just me, right? Because...

I mean really, the second scene: Holmes crawling to Watson on his hands and knees. And then sitting at his feet, leaning his head against Watson's legs. I pretty much choked on my tongue repeatedly. In a good way.

Film was visually awesome. Explosions were very pretty, use of alternative angles was good, period London breath-taking in its detail. I have preciously little to say about the plot (there was not!black magick, plan to take over the world and the introduction of Moriarty paving way for the inevitable sequel), because I was mostly asquee about the epic and glaringly obvious bromance unfolding in all its glory (oh there was a sub in this movie, it just wasn't in the text). The bickering! The co-dependency! The domesticity ('I thought I left the stove on.' 'You did.' and "Our dog!')! The not-talking-about-our-feelings awkwardness!

And holy crap, the d/s vibe! For example: Holmes is upset Watson is planning on marriage. How does he deal with this threat of losing his dom friend? He goes and gets himself beaten up at a boxing match. Where he knows Watson likes to go to bet. He spends a good long time getting his ass kicked and scanning the crowd to see if Watson is there, and only when it's obvious he won't be coming, does Holmes finish off his opponent. There are also several scenes where Holmes is basically acting like a pushy brat, trying every trick to get Watson's attention (and mostly succeeding), a scene where Watson hits Holmes just to shut him up, and another one where he leaves Holmes to hang from a rope (a fake noose, harmless) just because he can and it amuses him, even though Holmes tells him that he's losing feeling in his tongue and it would therefore be useless.

...

Yeah.

So hey, if you didn't guess already, I fucking loved it.

*goes to find some fic*

on 2010-01-15 11:20 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ihavecake.livejournal.com
I need to hook you up with [livejournal.com profile] apiphile. For reals.

on 2010-01-15 11:22 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
Heh, I've friended her, I just fail at commenting or striking up conversations. Mostly for time-related reasons though.

on 2010-01-16 12:22 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] brilligspoons.livejournal.com
This was my exact thought process both times I saw the movie! SO AWESOME. There might be some good stuff over at [livejournal.com profile] sherlockkink!

on 2010-01-16 01:23 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
Hee! Awesome and obvious. Oooh, thanks for the link, shall browse tomorrow...

on 2010-01-16 12:59 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] telynmurali.livejournal.com
Holmes crawling to Watson on his hands and knees. And then sitting at his feet, leaning his head against Watson's legs.

Thank you for reminding me of this. :D I saw Holmes tonight too, and am still on the bromance high. I love your angle. I was subconsciously there during the film, secretly hoping for more Watson!affection and Holmes!clinginess.

on 2010-01-16 01:26 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
You are most welcome. It certainly is the lasting image of the movie for me... Perhaps it is my mind, but I almost literally sprayed my diet pepsi all over at that scene. I was expecting bro yay, but I wasn't expecting the d/s and I never could have expected it to be so blatant. Well, possibly I'm more geared to see it than your average viewer but still! Clingy Holmes would be lovely...

on 2010-01-16 01:54 am (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] unaccompanied-g.livejournal.com
Holmes crawling to Watson on his hands and knees. And then sitting at his feet, leaning his head against Watson's legs.

Mmmm, yes, that certainly was a lovely image. ;)

(Also, I got your postcard today! Thank you! :D )

on 2010-01-16 05:22 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
Well, 'lovely' is one word for it... 'omgican'tbelievetheyjustwenttherenngghhh' is another.

Yay! Glad it arrived safely. :)

on 2010-01-16 02:58 am (UTC)
avictoriangirl: (Holmes/Watson)
Posted by [personal profile] avictoriangirl
I've seen it twice and am considering going a third time. You don't even need to don your slash goggles, what could be better?

There's some good fic at [livejournal.com profile] holmeswatson09 as well. :)

on 2010-01-16 05:25 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
You really don't need slash goggles. Even my housemate's bf (who is straight, and fairly vanilla one at that) remarked how he was 'slightly disappointed that Holmes and Watson didn't get it on because it was so obvious they should'. Now, that's what I call a good movie. *g*

Ohh, thank you! See, I don't even have to bother finding things for myself, my lovely flist just provides links! ♥

on 2010-01-16 05:05 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] sadiane.livejournal.com
I LOVED that the movie did blatent queer subtext without making me feel like they were making fun of me for being gay! So frequently, I find the "bromance" genre to be heavy on the "It's only funny because we're SO not gay!".

on 2010-01-16 05:28 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
That wasn't even subtext anymore really, it reached the Xena-levels of overt queerness. But yeah, I see where you're coming from. The key thing here I think was that neither of them appeared uncomfortable per se about their closeness, there was no cringe-worthy 'omg no way, we're manly and straight look!' scene that you so often find in these types of genres.

on 2010-01-16 09:57 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] apiphile.livejournal.com
I mean really, the second scene: Holmes crawling to Watson on his hands and knees. And then sitting at his feet, leaning his head against Watson's legs. I pretty much choked on my tongue repeatedly. In a good way.

HELLO. YOU ARE CORRECT. YOU ARE SO CORRECT I MAY NEED TO GET OFF MY ASS AND FRIEND YOU. HI.

... I will uncapslock in a minute but yes. Manipulative bossy SUB SUB SUB Holmes, yes please.

on 2010-01-16 05:47 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
HELLO! Hee, I welcome external validation of my d/s flavoured film interpretation! And I see you friended me too, awesome. I've been bad at the whole commenting and conversing lark but shall attempt to improve (also the Thurday verse is still on my list of things to finish reading, haven't abandoned it, just stupid RL obligations that take away from fandom activities)

Manipulative bossy SUB SUB SUB Holmes, yes please - unf unf unf. Like how Holmes regularly goes and takes a beating at boxing matches because he knows Watson likes to watch, and to bet on him. He makes sure to get bloodied up nice and proper first, before winning, and both of those he does for Watson. Then afterwards Watson totally scolds him for taking stupid risks, but Holmes knows it's all bluster because Watson's eyes and hands tell another story entirely, tracing every cut and bruise as he cleans Holmes up, just a little more roughly than is entirely professional for a doctor...

on 2010-01-16 06:39 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] apiphile.livejournal.com
Curse RL with the power of a thousand suns ([livejournal.com profile] plum177 has been posting excellent podfics of the whole thing and is up to Tuesday In The Woods, if that's easier)!

THIS IS CANON. Ahem. It's quite clear that he goes out of his way both to rile Watson and to force him to have to take care of him, as well. I mean there's this incredible manipulative codependency and I'm tremendously sorry but I cannot get the image of Watson thrashing the back of Holmes' thighs with his cane out of my head. It's been there for DAYS.

on 2010-01-16 06:55 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
Hmmm podfic version, shall certainly consider. I already tend to watch most of my shows on the move from my portable medial player (named Gabatini).

Watson thrashing the back of Holmes' thighs with his cane - ...I'm sorry, you were saying something? My brain just short-circuited from the akdjkajaklge'ahottttt. This is indeed an image worth contemplating. Now I'm wondering whether Watson just uses his regular cane or whether he has a special one with a bit more... swish.

on 2010-01-16 07:09 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] apiphile.livejournal.com
Do let me know, I'll pop them back on Megaupload or something.

I had the "what sort of cane" discussion with my boyfriend on the way back from the cinema and then giggled all the way home from the bus stop. It's a good thing he's used to me. I think, though, he probably has the nice shiny sword-stick from his days in the army, and then he has the plain, standard one he uses when he's not involved in a case and therefore doesn't feel he has to defend himself at every second, and then there's this thin schoolroom one - why do you have that, Dr Watson? Oh, no reason. Swish. Swish.

on 2010-01-16 07:51 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
Cheers, will do. More likely though, I'll whack the fics as txt files onto Gabatini so I can read them on the go...

Nothing wrong with cane discussions. And I like your train of thought. Of course, Watson would like to have options. And a world of yes on the nice thin rattan one that leaves pretty welts.

on 2010-01-16 02:22 pm (UTC)
trialia: Ziva David (Cote de Pablo), head down, hair wind-streamed, eyes almost closed. (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] trialia
*giggles* Honey, I'm not geared to looking for D/s in everything and even I saw how blatant it was :D

on 2010-01-16 05:49 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
Ahahaha, I think we both almost sprayed our drinks at the crawling scene :D

on 2010-01-16 05:55 pm (UTC)
trialia: Ziva David (Cote de Pablo), head down, hair wind-streamed, eyes almost closed. (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] trialia
*giggling more* Oh, totally. I think I lost count of the number of times I stifled giggles in your shoulder :D

on 2010-01-16 06:00 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
It was good to have a fangirl support group with me at this movie. *nodnod*

on 2010-01-16 06:12 pm (UTC)
trialia: Ziva David (Cote de Pablo), head down, hair wind-streamed, eyes almost closed. (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] trialia
Mutual ;D it's awesome to have someone with who gets the little sideways comments!

on 2010-01-16 05:36 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] lexandros.livejournal.com
*vigorous nodding*

on 2010-01-16 05:49 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
IKR!!!

on 2010-01-18 03:43 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dark-cygnet.livejournal.com
I'm sorry Mistress, all i could do was point, sigh and drool while watching the movie. *g* The slash was lovely, wasn't it. I got your postcard darling, thank you for it, i always look forward to getting them from you. Just one little thing, you can sign with only Kat, i do know who you are sweetling! LOL! So can we expect some fic from you now with the movie?

on 2010-01-18 01:06 pm (UTC)
trialia: Ziva David (Cote de Pablo), head down, hair wind-streamed, eyes almost closed. (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] trialia
Hee. The two of us spent most of the time alternately giggling very quietly and silently squeeing at each other XD it was awesome.

on 2010-01-18 03:33 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
Hee, that is an entirely acceptable reaction to the film in question. *hands tissues to wipe your face*

Yay you got my postcard! And lol, I just tend to sign like that for all LJ friends... Who knows, maybe you have 489320 other friends called Kat! But from now on I shall revel in my uniqueness and just sign with 'Kat'... or maybe not all! And just expect you to divine from the content who it was... :D

Um, um, um, idk about fic... I have so much on the go at the moment. Fic will certainly happen this month, but don't think any of it will be about these two.

on 2010-01-24 10:06 pm (UTC)
trialia: Ziva David (Cote de Pablo), head down, hair wind-streamed, eyes almost closed. (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] trialia
not to butt in, but fyi you can do that to me too. I know your handwriting now :D

on 2010-01-24 10:44 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
Duly noted.

on 2010-01-22 06:23 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] decor-noctis.livejournal.com
OMG I'M SO GLAD IT WASN'T JUST ME! That right there? That was a D/s relationship. So much that I was finding Jude as attractive as RDJ, which is saying something. If you were successful in the fic hunt, would you mind sharing links?

on 2010-01-22 12:42 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
\o/ It really was, and not even subtly done. I mean, the crawling and getting beaten bloody as sign of love. I really wasn't expecting that. Haven't really have time to check out the links given to me yet. Flist has had some recs so once I get around to them I'll pass them on if I remember... Oh, AO3 had some fic already as well.

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