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kat_lair ([personal profile] kat_lair) wrote2009-10-22 10:44 pm

Question Time

So who else is watching that toad Nick Griffin try to spin a shiny cover on his nazi-party? *attempts to refrain from punching the TV*

[identity profile] divalucia.livejournal.com 2009-10-22 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
The ex from Sheffield just left a status update on Facebook: "[Name Surname] hopes the bnp (or nick griffin in particular) are showed up tonight on question time. Don't hate the idiots, just laugh at them. Its much better for you!!"

There he goes again, telling marginalised people to just laugh it off. I can't even tell how many times we had this conversation. It was like he'd come up with a cure for all social evils - just don't think about them! Take it from the straight white dude!

Somewhat OT, but sometimes a girl's gotta let off steam. I hate that these ideologies are gaining ground and that people who aren't directly affected are simply looking the other way, because hey, no one wants to look like one of those angry activist types. It's so uncool, haven't you heard?

[identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com 2009-10-22 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
It's the old "where's your sense of humour? can't you take a joke?" argument...

I've been on a very ranty mood lately, mainly about gender issues. It's a good thing that I have people in my life who think it's great that I care about stuff like this... You know, instead of telling me to STFU.

Also, omg he just went on a rant about the MILITANT HOMOSEXUALS teaching homosexuality to school children (don't you know it's fine as long as people are doing it out of sight but two men kissing on the street fills him with repulsion).

[identity profile] divalucia.livejournal.com 2009-10-22 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
"where's your sense of humour? can't you take a joke?" I believe these were the exact words he used on several occasions. It was like talking to a personification of an Anti-Racism/Feminism/Anti-Homophobia Bingo Card.

Incidentally, he also thinks Internet friendships are shallow and meaningless, and "real friendships" are forged irl. Apparently you and I should be hanging out with people like him instead of this global community of super awesome people that actually get it. I... have no words.

I do however have great love for said community. <3

Ah, those militant homosexuals. They do make the best porn. Which is to say, NICK GRIFFIN STFU.
Edited 2009-10-22 23:13 (UTC)

[identity profile] divalucia.livejournal.com 2009-10-22 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm spamming, but this is highly relevant to our interests



SUCK ON THAT!

[identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com 2009-10-23 10:56 am (UTC)(link)
♥___♥ idk what's going on BUT I LIKE IT! mmm, neck-licking...

[identity profile] divalucia.livejournal.com 2009-10-24 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
What what, I thought everyone had seen My Beautiful Laundrette! Everyone with a thing for the UK and boylove, at least. I can tell you that you should see it NOW. Daniel Day-Lewis plays a National Front kinda guy who falls in love and opens a laundrette with an old Pakistani friend of his, played by Gordon Warnecke. Hard times ensue, but in the end it's a feel-good film, and a very good one at that.

[identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com 2009-10-25 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
It's one of those movies I've heard about a lot but just never gotten around to watching... But no worries, [livejournal.com profile] pushkin666 has just informed me that she has it and will bring it with her the next time she visits, so I shall be educated :D

[identity profile] divalucia.livejournal.com 2009-10-26 11:24 am (UTC)(link)
Awesome! I hope you'll enjoy it as much as I did. I imagine it's the best kind of antidote for BNP-related rage.

[identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com 2009-10-23 10:40 am (UTC)(link)
I got a bunch of the printed bingo cards from [livejournal.com profile] connotations and am contemplating putting them on my walls...

Ah, GTFO, you not my real friend bohoo! Yea, that one is so annoying. And then when you say that you're meeting up with some of your 'internet friends' you're faced with a mix of alarm and concern centred around 'oh wow, so they're real people and nt just a figment of your imagination' and 'omg they're psycho killers be careful'. Sigh.

Hee, that movie sounds interesting... :D

[identity profile] divalucia.livejournal.com 2009-10-24 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
All this paranoia about the Internet is just so so 1990's. I get the feeling these people think meet-ups take place in someone's cellar with no cell phone coverage instead of, you know, outside in public places where people normally meet. It simultaneously makes me want to smack them and pat them on the head for being so charmingly clueless.

[identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com 2009-10-25 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
...so, next meet-up in someone's dungeon basement y/y?

[identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com 2009-10-26 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
ahaha, alas I have no dungeon or basement. the cupboard under the stairs is too small and full of junk (although it does have a mood-setting red lighting...)

[identity profile] zeitheist.livejournal.com 2009-10-22 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't even bother watching it. I was genuinely hoping he'd get killed on the way into the studio. (I don't often wish people dead, but for him? I make an exception. It's worth losing a little bit of my humanity).

Although this tweet from director Edgar Wright is my favourite.

[identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com 2009-10-23 10:14 am (UTC)(link)
I was on two minds whether or not to watch because as expected it did make my bod pressure rise alarmingly. But it was educational. I've never seen someone so incredibly slick, the way he was spinning the questions and evading and outright lying ("I never said that" - "But it's on VIDEO" - "But i didn't mean it like that")... It was mind-boggling.

That tweet seems to have been removed...?

[identity profile] zeitheist.livejournal.com 2009-10-23 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
One thing Nick Griffin is good at is spinning propaganda. (It's something he has in common with David Cameron arf arf arf). I think this shows in almost everything he does and says. It's all about image, reputation, rhetoric. Having said that, I'm not surprised he floundered in open debate, nor am I especially sympathetic.

We discussed it a little in uni today and one of the girls said she felt sorry for him, because he was being bullied, and it would've been fairer if they'd gotten a group of BNP members together. (To which I replied "don't make me laugh, most BNP members don't have two brain cells to rub together between them").

I'm sorry! Does this work? At any rate, he wrote: 'I am not sure I enjoyed this week's edition of Britain's Got Racists'.

[identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com 2009-10-23 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
"don't make me laugh, most BNP members don't have two brain cells to rub together between them" - the frightening things is though that they have. Many of these people (insert your flavour of discrimination and phobia here) are actually very smart and well educated. Which is why I think it's sometimes dangerous to just dismiss then as dumb thugs and why simply laughing at them is not always the best policy. *steps off the podium*

Yeah that links works and lol *g*

[identity profile] moth2fic.livejournal.com 2009-10-23 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
I obviously wasn't watching but the news even made the Adelaide Advertiser!

[identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com 2009-10-23 10:16 am (UTC)(link)
It was... an education in spin-doctoring. That man is one slick creature.