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Robin Hood 3.12 & 3.13 - Something Worth Fighting For
So, finally got around to watching the last two episodes of Robin Hood. I'm pretty sure spoiler period has expired but lets put these comments under cut anyway.
* So, um, is it just me or was there a slightly incestuous vibe going on between Archer and Isabella?
* Speaking of Isabella... I don't know if it's bad writing, bad acting or a combination of both, but by god she has turned the most cringe-inducing, ott character imaginable.
* Oh god, the yoko pendant. That plot device made me roll my eyes so hard.
* Sheriff's Tunnel
* Guy is still interesting.
* Kate is annoying when she's being all 'loooooooooooove me Robin blah blah' and having inexplicable outbursts.
* Seriously INCEST VIBE SO HIGH. "I'll give you more than pennies... Brother." o_O
* Okay, proclaiming immunity to Alan, a more clever move. Oh Alan... The gang turning their back at him was a heart-rendering scene.
* Anyone else notice how Archer is trying to forge cold iron.
* Aww no one hugs Guy goodbye. Lol.
* Tuck is failing as an inspirational speaker.
* I really kind of want some angry incestuous hate sex between Archer and Isabella. Yes, I said it.
* "He must love Isabella, why else would he have the pendant?" OH I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE A THOUSAND OTHER REASONS. Jesus H.
* Oh Much and his fear of graves... WHY WERE THE REASONS FOR THIS NEVER ADDRESSED. Oh yeah, because the writers don't care about him.
* Alan is awesome. The end.
* Okay the scene with John and Tuck in front of the castle, having their little poetic moment and then turning around to see the villagers... First scene that really made me genuinely smile, a distant echo of the FUCK YEAH moments from the first season.
* Ah the strategy of passive resistance, used by such prominent figures as Ghandi, Martin Luther King and um, Brother Tuck.
* Oh Much baby... even when he's terrified of being buried alive he's insisting it's Robin who gets out first.
* Nooooooooooooo ALAN!!
* Also oh god the part where Much's hand slips from Robin's... (yes, there was a petty part of me going "SEE, SEE, HOW DOES IT FEEL HUH?') Visually that was a great shot
* Okay, the peaseful protest kick was going well so far...
* What the hell, why is Archer suddenly developing a conscience and switiching sides, just because of Kate.
* Oh Alan. Dead knowing no one trusted him.
* O HAI SHERIFF I MISSED YOU!
* Okay, I admit it. Seeing Robin and Guy facing the Sheriff side by side makes me a little happy. In my pants.
* As does the fact that Robin didn't hand Guy over.
* Oh godddd Alan's burial... *sniffles*
* Loved the scene between Guy and Isabella in the cell.
* Oh hey Kate is doing stuff other than pining after Robin again. Awesome.
* All the drama around Archer sort of passed me by.
* Robin going on a mission AND LEAVING MUCH IN CHARGE. Fucking FINALLY. Also: *clutches heart* His faaaaaaaaaaaaaace.
* Every time someone says "The trebuchets!" I snickered. Idk why.
* When Robin and co get back he runs straight to Much and there is almost hugging. With all the face-grabbing that was going on I almost expected there to be a joyous kiss. Yes I know I'm delusional, just leave me be.
* Why the hell is Tuck doing his 'figuring out the base elements' in the middle of the attack. Why isn't he setting up a historically inplausible laboratory in the castle?
* Okay Much being in charge of the archers is awesome. Especially his little 'you wanna take me, huh?' jump at the end there *hearts him*
* ffs, you'd think they put someone smarter in charge of the prisoners though. Isobella's 'ploy' wasn't exactly subtle.
* I really rather like Much giving commands with his sword held high... Um, I mean, what?
* OH FFS KATE /o\
* ROBIN AND MUCH BEING A WELL-OILED MACHINE OF BFFS. This is how it totally worked in the war, okay. AND WHY WEREN'T THERE MOAR OF THIS IN THIS SEASON?
* ALSO MUCH SAVING KATE WAS AMAZING! A thanks would have been nice Robin.
* emo!Robin is emo. And his speech just makes me sigh and roll my eyes.
* Okay, I have to give credit to the fact that finally, after what feels like forever, Much is actually portrayed as the competent fighter (and leader!) he is.
* Isabella wants to have incestuous relations with all her brothers and half-brothers.
* Oh Guy...
* oh wait it's a regular family reunion.
* OH, OH ROBIN. I knew it was coming, but I didn't know how. Poison sword and knowing the time is running out are actually... well, it's a way more interesting way to do it than the dying in the battle I was expecting.
* Oh Guy, Guy. 'I lived in shame but because of you I die proud'... Okay, the headcount for this finale is pretty fucking high. Always, always found Guy an interesting character and Richard Armitage did an excellent job with the role.
* Okay the whole final battle/escape... and I'm really just waiting for the inevitable.
* Lol and there went a perfectly fine model of the Nottingham Castle. Nice explosion though.
* What was the point of telling Archer not to tell Kate that Robin was dying when Tuck blabbed it to everyone practically 5 minutes later?
* Oh Much.... And now I'm crying... his broken face, his broken heart and broken life.
* Oh the echo of the hand trailing the flowers... That was a nice shot.
*Much: what am i going to be without you?
Robin: you're already more of a man than i ever was. you're my best friend
Me: FUCKING BAWLING NOW
* And Much's floppy haaaaaaaaaaaaair *strokes it*
* Robin goes off to die alone.
* As
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pushkin666 pointed out, Guy should have had Alan waiting for him when he died, just like Marian was waiting for Robin. Someone write this y/y?*
ginnystar and inkblot_fiend you were right: that was one pansy-ass lily they gave him. I really wanted it to be the those small white flowers Robin touches lingeringly in the first episode when they get home. That would have been so much better.* The ending with 'we are Robin Hood, the show must go on' felt a little trite to me. The good thing is it will fit nicely into the drabble idea I have in mind. Already they are forgetting him, Much can see that...
* Final thoughts: On balance there were many more head-desk moments than there were good ones, and that I feel is a pretty descriptive of the entire third season. I was nowhere as emotionally invested in this season as I was on the first two and thus the news of the series' end filled me with no huge sorrow. Although somehow I feel that Robin Hood without Robin could have actually been a Much better show. Pun intended. Still, the series certainly had its moments. And when they were good they were so very, very good. Of course, when they were bad, they were god awful. However, in the end I always loved the RH fandom more than I ever loved the show. And unlike the show, the fandom is still here. So... fic recs anyone?
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Like an elephant.A+ WOULD LOL AGAIN.
I really, really liked Archer, and here is why: when they save Robin, Much and Guy from being buried alive, Much tumbles out all DEAD-LOOKING and Kate and Robin are just all "OMG YOU ♥". Archer is the one who brings Much back to life. Ergo: needs moar Archer/Much.
ALSO MUCH'S FACE WHEN ROBIN SAYS GOODBYE TO HIM BRB CRYING AGAIN.
Thank you for this post. It reminds me that I really need to start my entry for
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Okay, I will totally give Archer points for resuscitating Much. But I just didn't warm up to him... Maybe because he still reminded me of Robin, who I just wanted to smack on the head 90% of the time.
JESUS CHRIST THAT WAS HEART-BREAKING. I was completely unable to stop the tears.
I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THESE FICS SO MUCH! Long RH fic is like gold dust.
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Yeah, he's a bit... um, cocky, and I may have mistaken it for charm. I still think he's awesome, though. I'm writing my Big Bang fic from his POV. Which - do not get me started on my Big Bang fic. I've written exactly zero words, and I had to grovel and beg the mods to let me stay in the contest; with a month to go, I probably should have swallowed my pride and admitted defeat. *facedesk*
I managed to hold it together until Much's 'what am i going to be without you?' and then I let out a HOWL of despair and started sobbing.
My parents were understandably concerned.
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...idk.
Well I trust you to make me love Archer when the series writers couldn't.
What's the minimum wordcount for the bigbang hood fic?
yeah that line was a killer. Not 'what am I going to do' but 'what am i going to be' - that was remarkable character insight there, how Much's whole identity is so tied up in Robin that he can only imagine him in reference to him...
I totally understand your howl of pain and heartbreak.
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*CHOKE*
Perhaps my love for Archer will shine through? Minimum wordcount for the bigbanghood fic is 20,000 words. So it's not insurmountable. I probably won't get art unless I wrote over 30k, but who knows, I have an entire page of story notes.
Yes, exactly! Without Robin, Much not only has no idea how he's going to cope, he has no idea who he's going to be. I sort of wish the series hadn't been cancelled, because I would have enjoyed seeing Sam Troughton play Much figuring that out. (Although the fact that that is only the second time I've said "I sort of wish the series hadn't been cancelled because..." probably says a lot about why it was cancelled in the first place. XD).
My howl of pain and heartbreak sounded a lot like "B'AWWWWWWWW".
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I am super excited about all this fic. Which I have discovered I can save on Gabatini as txt files and read in train etc. \o/
Much needs his own spin off. I would watch him just travelling from village to village, saving people, getting to be the hero. Maybe getting a sidekick of his own... (why, why did they kill Allan? That would have been an awesome show, the two of them...) Maybe travelling to visit Djaq and Will and their adorable rugrats.
Mine was more sort of a broken 'oh' followed by silent tears. Sam Troughton, the things you do...
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Yep, same way I felt about the last series. It's almost kind of a relief that it's over.
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You know if the writers had spread some of the good bits you mentioned above throughout the whole of the series instead of lumping it all at the end, we might have had a Series 4. Not that I would have watched...cuz the bastards killed Allan. *sulks*
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This series was a prime example of 'excellent minor characters, mostly boring and one-dimensional leads'... Allan got a rough deal for sure, but maybe he and Guy are together in the afterlife... That would make a hilarious fic though, y/n?
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http://community.livejournal.com/rh_drabblefest
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hehe there's quite a bit of Izzy/Guy but a three some would be interestiong, what with the vibes.
Ah the strategy of passive resistance, used by such prominent figures as Ghandi, Martin Luther King and um, Brother Tuck.
Just lol, the toddler temper tanturm face didn't help either. And just everything about Much, Robin's death doesn't bother me but Much's face does!!!!!!!!!!! Aww love him
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I was kind of impressed their strategy of sitting down worked. Well for two minutes anyway.
And yes, Much's face was truly heart-breaking. I have an angsty drabble follow up coming in a couple of days...
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*lol* Me too!
Okay, proclaiming immunity to Alan, a more clever move. Oh Alan... The gang turning their back at him was a heart-rendering scene.
I know, this makes me cry every time :(
Oh Much and his fear of graves... WHY WERE THE REASONS FOR THIS NEVER ADDRESSED. Oh yeah, because the writers don't care about him.
Hear hear! Ooh, and you've just given me an idea for a story...
Oh Alan. Dead knowing no one trusted him.
*sniff*
Robin going on a mission AND LEAVING MUCH IN CHARGE. Fucking FINALLY. Also: *clutches heart* His faaaaaaaaaaaaaace.
Yay, Much!
Okay, I have to give credit to the fact that finally, after what feels like forever, Much is actually portrayed as the competent fighter (and leader!) he is.
This is one of the most wonderful things about 13 for me. Go Much!
Oh Guy, Guy. 'I lived in shame but because of you I die proud'... Okay, the headcount for this finale is pretty fucking high. Always, always found Guy an interesting character and Richard Armitage did an excellent job with the role.
Hear hear again. He made the character so interesting
and hawt.What was the point of telling Archer not to tell Kate that Robin was dying when Tuck blabbed it to everyone practically 5 minutes later?
I've no idea, this always bugs me. Maybe because he knew Kate would make such a massive scene and bawl the castle down that the Sheriff and co would work out where they had hidden everyone, and then they would all have to get blown up together??
Much: what am i going to be without you?
Robin: you're already more of a man than i ever was. you're my best friend
Me: FUCKING BAWLING NOW
Snap. *sniff*
So... fic recs anyone?
The season 4 competition in
Brilliant review!
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I'm also happy that I'm not the only one deprived enough to see all this incest everywhere... Ah RH fandom, you share in my depravity.
Alan, Guy and Much all broke me a little bit here. Is this afterlife fic of yours Alan/Guy per chance? Because I feel there should be something like that certainly...
And yeah, not enough tears in the world for Much. Sam Troughton did wonders with what little he was given to work with. Favourite character hands down, I will always be a Much girl.
The whole 'don't tell Kate' just seemed so unnecessary. They were in the middle of running for their lives anyway so unlikely even Archer would have stopped in the middle of it just to go 'oh hey by the way!' And as soon as they were out of the tunnels Robin confessed to Tuck anyways...
Ooooh, I shall check out the competition entries after I've posted by own post-finale drabble-and-a-half...
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Well, it's a bit multi-character, but let's just say they both feature and the rest hasn't been written yet ;) It may take me a while, but I'll post it to robinhoodbbc when it's done.
P.S. Sorry it took me so long to reply, I am *so slow* at the moment!
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No worries about the delay, comments welcome anytime.