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It’s been a difficult time, people; being unable either to watch the finale when it aired or download it until now. But I was good, staying away from reaction posts and spoilers no matter how many exclamation marks the lj-cut text had or how badly I was twitching to find out OMGWHATHAPPENED?

And now that the episodes are finally sitting on my laptop, all ready to go, I find myself almost scared to watch it, a thousand what if? scenarios playing in my head. Perhaps ignorance is bliss?

Perhaps I should just suck it up and trust my f-list’s promises of emotional support? So here you are, all you who are waiting for my reaction with sadistic glee; a really, really ridiculously long reaction post to the Season 2 Finale of Robin Hood.


 


OH MUCH ILU! Surprise birthday pig party! Robin’s face of glee, because of course Much remembered and arranged for something!

But OMG it’s a trap! When Robin says Oh Much so do thousands of fangirls around the globe. Also, how much do I love it that the writer’s put that in? More than words can express.

But seriously, what is this rag-tag mercenary army with at least 349 different nationalities, time-periods and possibly species represented in their ranks? It reminds me of the History In Action festival I attended in the summer of -98. There was an incident with some cows and if memory serves I spent the night roasting a pig’s head with some American Civil War soldiers and crashed in a tent with a very grabby Roman Centurion… Good times. 

Aaaaaaaaaanyway!

Aww, Much is sorry! And indignant! And apparently having a nervous breakdown?

AHAHAHAA, an exploding pig’s head! Awesome!

Ah! Continuation FTW! Djaq’s secreted lightning powder comes in handy. I liked her matter-of-fact “I disobeyed you.” 

Will detects a fatal flaw in the tale of Sparta.


Um… Why does Guy know Robin’s birthday? But Marian obviously doesn’t? 

Anyway, I like how normal Marian and Guy’s interaction sounds, like their talking on the same wavelength for once. And I really like Guy all serious and demanding.

 

Are we gonna kill ‘em? Yeah! Are we gonna like it? Yeah! *wipes tears of laughter*

 

O hai thar Allan, looking good. And once again getting referred to as Guy’s boy. Allan himself elaborates and tells Marian he’s “just the whipping boy around here, the packing boy”. Seriously. It’s like the writers want as to write kinky bdsm fic.

Oh Allan… your cynicism is hurtful.

Sheriff: Nice. Nasty. Both?
Hehehehe

 

Oh Much! I find it difficult to follow your plan of distraction and self-sacrifice when you keep stripping as you explain it.

I… have to confess I really wanted to see him used as a hostage to draw Robin out. *is heartless*

 

I really like the interaction between Allan and Marian. And thanks for the completely unnecessary reminder of what happens if the Sheriff dies writers. Hi, let me introduce myself: I’m a viewer with a memory span longer than goldfish’s. Nice to meet you

Ha! I may have let out a little wohoo when Marian punches Allan. And then another, more lecherous one when she strips him of his belt. Though Allan is right and Marian’s idea sucks.

Um, why is Guy just randomly shouting for Allan? Is it because he has a break from trip preparations and wants a quickie?

Love Sheriff practicing his speeches. Aaaand predictably Marian gets caught.

Oh Marian, why did you do it? Now you gone and broken your beautiful threesome with Guy and Allan. *weeps*

GUY STFU! Whyyyyyyyyy? There was no need to tell that, you moron!

I think the Sheriff is more outraged about the fact that Guy kept secrets from him that about Marian being the Nightwatchman in the first place.

Oh-ho, Guy will see to it that Allan’s loyalty is rewarded… Mind. Gutter. No but really, the way he’s looking at Allan when he says it… nnggghhh.

 

Aw, dissent in the ranks. Oh Much…

Robin: In fact, I think we need to relax. Don’t know why I didn’t think of this before. It’s my birthday!
Me: *OUTLAWRGY!!!!!! \o/
*TM [profile] razorxrosary

 

Marian: So it’s true. You tried to kill the king.
Guy: What? Feel betrayed?
Ooooh, the bitterness. It’s so delicious.

 

John brings the Klingon quotes again.

Ahahaha, Djaq tells them it’s time play Truth or Dare. Can anyone tell me if the tradition she’s talking about (I’m not even going to attempt to spell it) is an actual custom or if she just made that up so she’d get the boys to talk about their feelings? Because I wouldn’t put that past her.

 

Is it me or did that trip from Nottingham to Portsmouth go really quickly? On horse-and-carriage? 

Guy: Allan!
Allan: Coming!
Me: Me too!

 

Oh Djaq. Oh Djaq! Oh, oh, oh… Oh Will! I can’t even. Oh my babies! WILL’S SMIIIIIIIILE. Their little faaaaaaaces! *explodes from the cuteness* I watched this scene with hands over my mouth (literally) and squeaked. D’aaaawwwwwwww x infinity! And when Will says: “And the way you will always, always be a woman.” I made a noise akin to hhhhnnnggghhhhtakemenow! and melted into a puddle of oestrogen. No lie.


Oh Guy, Guy, Guy, Guy. Seriously, every scene between him and Allan makes me want to just plant myself between them and sort of roll around in the sexual tension. Preferrably naked.

The Sheriff slashes them too! “Kissing in the moonlight?” Aahahahahaaa!!!

 

Aw John. Loving even Much. And breaking down… I love how Will holds him.

 

Why isn’t Allan in Guy’s bed? Does not compute.

 

I wasn’t the only one who shook their head at Much’s “I’m not in love with anyone” right?

And then…. OMG FUCKING FINALLY!!!! Much says what we’ve been saying since the first episode: Robin takes him for granted and he bloody well shouldn’t! YES! *fist-pump* You guys! I did an actual victory dance complete with a little twirl and an outrageous boob-shimmy at this. YOU TELL IT MUCH! YOU TELL IT LIKE IT IS!

You think I talk too much. Oh I know that’s what you think. Much talks too much and eats too much and worries too much. Well it’s easy for you to say because if I don’t do it then who does? It’s alright for you because you can just breeze through life and be everyone’s hero and not have to worry about the simple things like the fire or the food or the hole in your cape or your birthday! Because good old, dependable old Much will take care of all that. Well I tell you something. You take me for granted! You’re sniggering at me… You shouldn’t!

But then… Then… It’s not any kind of vindication or victory or anything but raw and heart-breaking and hurtful because

I’m angry! And just because I love you doesn’t mean I can’t hate you too. And I hate you. Because in the Holy Land there was two of us and we were a team and the things we went through and the horrors we saw… Went through them together! And when we came home we were like brothers. Brothers-in-arms. And where is that now, eh? It’s gone, that’s where. We never talk, we just don’t. You make me a free man and we’re meant to be equals. We’re not equals. The only thing’s that changed around here is that you still treat me like a servant, you don’t treat me like a friend.

And I’m crying. I’m crying, helplessly and without shame and oh my god, oh my god Much. *clings to fellow fangirls*

Sam Troughton owns my heart, he owns it and hurts it and I don’t even mind.

And Jesus, Robin is still protesting that it’s not true. But for once, for fucking once, the others side with Much, because what he’s saying is the truth and when the realisation and shame hit Robin’s eyes I feel nothing but vicious schadenfreude because he should feel bad, he should feel awful, he should feel like the lowest scum of the earth. I’ve said it before and I say it again. Robin is good and heroic and noble but he’s also fundamentally selfish and generally unable and unwilling to see past the big picture. It’s like the reverse of that saying about not seeing the woods for the trees. Well Robin sees the whole sprawling forest, is fucking destined to save it, but he’s not overtly concerned about cutting down a few trees to do so.

*deep calming breaths*

Okay, okay, I’m moving away from that allegory now before it gets too out of hand.

 

Right, right where were we?

Oh yes! Allan! Doing The Right Thing. \o/ (also, Whispering Sexily In The Dark)

 

The outlaws are making suicide plans. Djaq and Will plan to die together no matter what. Much’s face when he looks at Robin with This is it breaks my heart all over again. Oh Show, what are you doing to me?

Still, I can’t quite get over the fact that even though Much was in the right and Robin was in the wrong, oh so very wrong, it’s Much who’s apologising…

Ah, Thank You John for making Robin talk.

I love how Will refers to Much to confirm that what Robin says about being engaged to Marian is true.

And OMG. Genuine words and genuine feelings from Robin to Much. I almost died from shock.

Robin: And Much, I have betrayed your friendships, but I think you know why. you se I can’t face the terrors we saw, I can’t. Because I’m not as strong as you. I have to put them out of my mind because if I don’t… then I wouldn’t be able to lead. I mean I wouldn’t even be able to…
Much: What?
Robin: It doesn’t—
John: Be able to shoot.
Much: ‘cos you can shoot…
Robin: No. no, John’s right. In the Holy Land, the men we saw, in bits. Screaming. Every time I raise my bow I see them, I hear them. And I know now, whether it was right or wrong, what we did in the Holy Land it makes no difference. So I have to try not to kill. I have to avoid killing. God gave me a gift with a bow. I mean, I can kill with my eyes closed, I can kill a man from a thousand yards and I have to try everything in my power not to. And that’s why I wasn’t there for you in your hour of need my friend. Because I have to let those memories go, I just have to be free.
Much: Why didn’t you say?
Robin: It doesn’t matter now. in a few moments we’ll be free forever.
 

AND THEN THERE WAS HUGGING AND I WAS CRYING AGAIN OMFG SNOT EVERYWHERE *wails*

 

Guy is dreaming… and looking ever so molestable (stfu it so is a word) in his sleep. Okay, so it’s Marian he imagines giving him a backrub and telling him how she should have let him look after him and I’m like nodding along because yes this is expectable material from the writers but OMG then it shifts and it’s Allan rubbing Guy’s shoulders (still in his dream scenario) saying “I’m your boy, I’m nothing without you, I should’ve let you look after me” and then, then it’s the Sheriff except it’s not a dream any longer, he’s really waking Guy up with “Guy don’t be too disappointed. Your boy Allan, he doesn’t love you any more, he’s run away.” And he’s not letting Guy up but presses him down into the bed telling him that “We don’t need him, it’s better this way, just us.” AND HOLY JESUS PEOPLE DID THEY REALLY DO THAT OR DID I HAVE SOME VERY HOMOEROTIC HALLUCINATIONS AGAIN??? (what? Like you don’t.)

Ride, Allan! Ride like the wind!

 

OMG DJAQ/WILL KISS!!! I can get behind this het pairing no problem, compared to Robin and Marian they are 4903492 times sweeter and more compatible.

But oh noes! Here’s Allan! He deserves to be included in that too!!! And he lies so prettily.

Oh Robin and Much! See you in heaven

Allan’s face when he’s walking toward the barn and his former friends… Okay, okay, Robin believes him, thank fuck!

FIGHT SCENE OMG EXCITEMENT (why is Robin sporting a tiny little dagger?) Yay for Allan back where he belongs! (although I do feel sorry for Guy)

LOOK AT MUCH AND HIS SEXY SWORD SKILLZ! ALLAN! DJAQ’S SCREAM OF RAGE!

Will: She’s with me! *impales a mercenary*

ALLAN IS BACK!!!

To Portsmouth!

 

End of part 1! *takes a break to learn how to breathe again*

 

***

Aaaand we’re in Holy Land!

Saracens! Nefarious conspiracies! Sheriff eyeing the supposed assassin like a piece of meat.

Wohoo! Have no fear, the outlaws are here! (incidentally, someone tell me there are at least 803284 fics about their sea-voyage in the works. I needs them, precious! Months in a same ship! Time for Robin and Much to, erm, re-establish their close friendship. Time for Djaq and Will to draw Allan into their loving arms. Time for John to be violently sea-sick and write long letters to his son and Alice. WHERE IS THIS FIC???)

 

Is Guy playing Marian? Still, he’s not too pleased about the lecherous Sheriff gives him…

 

Oh Allan! *squishes him forever* He’s just so happy to be back with the others…

Oh Much! I love that you are trying to have a meaningful conversation with Robin about being back in the Holy Land… Ahahaha, and of course this takes place just above Marian’s prison cell window! Of course!

O SHIT! Everyone except Robin and Much have been caught by Saracens! Choreographed fighting ftw!

 

I find the brief Arabic exchanges lovely though of course we’re switching to English quickly – after all it would be a horrible torture to subject the viewer to subtitles </sarcasm>

Oh Will and Djaq and their beautiful pigeon metaphor love

Robin, I may like you a little again. Not only have you sort of apologised to Much (I still think it was very sort of and the words I’m sorry were never actually said out loud) but you paid attention on the culture sensitivity class.

Ooooh sneaky servant girl spy!

 

Ahahaha! Sheriff’s gleeful fist-bite! LULZ!

 

“The Crusader’s Frontier” – WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? Do your history homework writers!

Wow the Crusaders look so evil (and KKK-like) in their white outfits.

“Yeah? And I’m the King of England.”
O HAI THAR CARTER, LET ME SMEX YOU UP!

Okay, the fact that I admire Aristotle and I prefer Plato were the passwords between Richard and Saladdin fills me GLEE.

But I am having trouble concentrating on the political plot when Carter is right there, looking ready to be debauched.

Ooooh, I like that Robin’s name wasn’t mentioned directly…

Um. Carter/Richard? TELL ME I’M NOT ALONE IN THIS.

 

The scene between Guy and Sheriff SO TENSE OMG! O_O I really wasn’t sure which way it was going to go… Guy! Noooooooooo! I can’t believe he’s irredeemable, even now.

 

Aw, Djaq and Will, walking hand-in-hand. Though, by god I want Allan to be part of that so badly…

Aw, Bassan’s giving Djaq and Will his blessing… THIS IS GOING TOO WELL, I’M SCARED SOMETHING BAD WILL HAPPEN.

Aaaaaw Much, not knowing what the Latin means… *feeds him pie*

CARTER! He comes running straight into Robin’s arms! And then moves on to shake Much’s hand, who is the only other person he acknowledge with more than a nod. [profile] razorxrosary, finish the damn Robin/Carter/Much porn BECAUSE I NEED IT LIKE BURNING.

Richard: Robin, of all the men that have served me, I loved you the most.
Robin: And I have cherished that.
ROBIN/RICHARD BRING IT!

GASP!!! KEEP YOU DIRTY HANDS OFF MUCH!

Oh Much…

 

Um, is it wrong that I find the sight of all the outlaws strung up in the desert sort of… appealing? It’s not my fault! Sam Troughton looks so pretty and pale and hurting and… hhnnggghhh?

Much: Robin. Master. When I was serving the King, I was serving you. When I think of England, I think of you.

Okay, let’s take a break from confessions of love to appreciate the fucking amazing cinematography on the scene where Sheriff et al. ride toward the outlaws.

And the arrangement of putting Robin and Marian back-to-back but with her facing Much strikes me as symbolic somehow.

Robin’s defence of the King irritates me, because omg Richard you are being a moron, believing the stupid tale.

OMG marriage wtf??? No offence, but DO NOT WANT.

Much’s face! He’s… happy for them, but breaking inside and crying and I CAN’T DEAL WITH THIS SHIT.

Also, notice how their physical positions bring Much into the picture here. For the scene it’s not necessary so the writers and the director must have put him there deliberately, so that the viewers get his reaction to what’s happening.

 

CARTER TO THE RESCUE OMG YAY! Listen, if I can’t have Robin/Much, I’ll take Carter/Much instead, okay? They are both so blond and pretty and I want to see all that pale, pale skin, sliding against each other in the firelight, I want to see the flush spreading down their bodies, the long line of Much’s throat, his fingers pressing hard into the flesh of Carter’s arms, the white tracks of nails on his back, the—

Um. Wait. The King. Oh yes, let’s rescue him.

 

Much: The desert decided.
ILU! *molests*

Ahahaha, BONCHURCH! MUCH, SERIOUSLY, I’LL BAKE YOU PIE FOREVER!

 

Omg car horse chase!

MUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH!!! NOOOOOOOOOO! *hyperventilates*
Okay, okay, he’s not hit.

CARTER DON’T DIE!!!

Richard! And his awesome throwing-arm! Hot, y/y?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! RICHARD! OMG!!!!  NONONONONONO CAAAAAAARTER WHY MUST YOU DIE WHYYYYYYYYYY?

MUCH! DECAPITATING JAMES AND SAVING ROBIN’S LIFE!!!! MUCH FTMFW!

MARIAN AND GUY AND I WOULD RATHER DIE THAN BE WITH YOU GUY OF GISBOURNE!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

…………..

 

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!!!

I……

What? I mean… What?

Guy… killed Marian? For reals?

WHAT?

Okay, so it’s no secret that Robin/Marian was never my favourite pairing but… fine, whatever, I cried. With my hands firmly over my mouth the entire time.

But… How? How are they playing this next season? Marian is such an integral part to the whole legend of Robin Hood that… How?

And, and, and Will and Djaq are staying in Holy Land. Does this mean they won’t be in season 3 either?  WHAT IS GOING ON? Why are you doing this to me show? WHY?

Robin quotes the Quran. And Much recognises the quote. I… My love knows no bounds.

 

THE END.

 

I… omg. That… I can’t believe they killed Marian. I mean… okay, there is a little, shallow part of me that is sort of maybe pleased *hides* because now Robin can find solace and old love that turns into new love with Much… I feel sort of bad for thinking gthat, but sort of not… I… I don’t even know. What is going on next season? Where is all the fic dealing with the various issues raised in these episodes? OMG ROBIN HOOD FEN COME AND HOLD ME!

*trembles*

on 2008-01-13 09:02 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] wee-mango.livejournal.com
Oh Djaq. Oh Djaq! Oh, oh, oh… Oh Will! I can’t even. Oh my babies! WILL’S SMIIIIIIIILE. Their little faaaaaaaces! *explodes from the cuteness* I watched this scene with hands over my mouth (literally) and squeaked. D’aaaawwwwwwww x infinity! And when Will says: “And the way you will always, always be a woman.” I made a noise akin to hhhhnnnggghhhhtakemenow! and melted into a puddle of oestrogen. No lie.

Hee! XD I was exactly the same! ♥

on 2008-01-13 09:06 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
Like okay, I confess, Will isn't my first choice for sexytimes out of the men in this show, but the way he said that line... voice all rough and fjkdlsjag;'la;. Yeah, I'd hit that.

on 2008-01-18 10:04 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dcwash.livejournal.com
I like WillandDjaq, but I HAAAATED the way they had them confess their love for each other in this episode. Until they got to Teh Kiss. When Djaq reached up and kissed Will...and he just stood there for, like, ten seconds with his eyes closed.....that's when I flailed. FLAILED, I tell you!

on 2008-01-13 09:04 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zeitheist.livejournal.com
finish the damn Robin/Carter/much porn BECAUSE I NEED IT LIKE BURNING.
YOU TOLD ME TO FINISH MY DAEMON FIC FIRST. MAKE YOUR MIND UP! >:[

ILU!

I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY. SO I'M JUST GOING TO STAND HERE AND WAVE MY ARMS AROUND A LITTLE BIT. (WASN'T IT AWESOME. OH SHOW).

on 2008-01-13 09:18 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
HOLD ME SOPHIE!!!!

WHAT IS GOING ON?? WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT SEASON? COULD THIS SHOW BE ANYMORE SLASHIER IF IT TRIED?

How can you expect me to make rational decisions at the time like this? I'M INCOHERENT WITH GLEE AND FLAILING AND AND AND.....

*clings*

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on 2008-01-13 09:19 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] inkblot-fiend.livejournal.com
*holds you*

COULD SAM TROUGHTON BE AWESOMER?! I swear, he glances over at Robin when he says, "I'm not in love with anyone." And I was SO HAPPY they paid off Robin laughing at Much, because that was getting annoying. But then Much's broken voice and helpless hand gestures made me sad deep down in my heart...

He should not look that pretty whilst dying of heat exhaustion, either.

And the arrangement of putting Robin and Marian back-to-back but with her facing Much strikes me as symbolic somehow. - AND OMG THEY SHOWED HIM IN FOCUS WHILST HE CRIED!

And his relationship with Carter was just about the frustrated the-guy-we-really-want-is-off-smooching-a-girl sex.

Also, Robin/Richard: YES. Carter/Richard: YES. I think you probably have to rate quite highly on the Shaggable Scale to get into the King's Guard in the first place. That's my theory, anyway...

on 2008-01-13 09:44 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
*snivels onto your shoulder*

COULD SAM TROUGHTON BE AWESOMER?! - I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE. And you're right about the little glance...

He should not look that pretty whilst dying of heat exhaustion, either. - I know right, I was all mmmmmmmm even though I felt sort of bad for it.

And his relationship with Carter was just about the frustrated the-guy-we-really-want-is-off-smooching-a-girl sex. - WHERE IS MY THREESOME, WHERE??

I think you probably have to rate quite highly on the Shaggable Scale to get into the King's Guard in the first place. - Yes, let's not forget that both Robin and Much made it there... *speculative*

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on 2008-01-13 09:36 pm (UTC)
Posted by (Anonymous)
i think Robin/Richard would be a better ship, but i can see a Carter/Richard ship.

on 2008-01-13 09:47 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
oh I can see that ship too... I'm an equal opportunity shipper! everything goes! um. well. almost.

on 2008-01-13 09:50 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] smokey2307.livejournal.com
O HAI THAR I is going to read it all now and comment in a few minutes.

on 2008-01-13 10:06 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
wohooo!

on 2008-01-13 10:14 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] smokey2307.livejournal.com
Why isn’t Allan in Guy’s bed? Does not compute.

*is equally confused*

And then…. OMG FUCKING FINALLY!!!!

And I’m crying. I’m crying, helplessly and without shame and oh my god, oh my god Much. *clings to fellow fangirls*

*clings*

Still, I can’t quite get over the fact that even though Much was in the right and Robin was in the wrong, oh so very wrong, it’s Much who’s apologising…

I have the most amazing screencap. It involves Much. And Robin. And nuzzling. I swear down. Here, click (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/smokey2307/RobinHood_2x12_AGoodDayToDie_1805-A.jpg).

And that’s why I wasn’t there for you in your hour of need my friend. Because I have to let those memories go, I just have to be free.
Much: Why didn’t you say?
Robin: It doesn’t matter now. in a few moments we’ll be free forever.

IT'S MAKING ME CRY ALL OVER AGAIN, DAMN YOU SAM TROUGHTON YOU AMAZING ACTOR!!!

Oh Robin and Much! See you in heaven

LOVE.


More to come, I went over the character limit.

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on 2008-01-13 09:55 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] pocket-slam.livejournal.com
*holds*
im glad your hand was stuck to your mouth like mine

on 2008-01-13 10:14 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
*whimpers* Thank you for the emotional support... I literally was biting my fist at several points during this.

on 2008-01-13 10:06 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] totally-loca.livejournal.com
Aha! I have been waiting for your review! They make me giggle muchly.
Thank you.
And *whimper*, they killed Marian. *sob* And Much crying all tied up, kill me now.
:D

on 2008-01-13 10:29 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
Well, I'm glad my trauma and pain bring you amusement *huffs* :p

I cried total of three times during this (like actual, big fat tear rolling down my face). Oh show, how you break me so.

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on 2008-01-13 10:10 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/shing_/
YAY for your reaction post! Now the season finally feels over. You manage to put down in words what I can not. Anyway, was quite broken over Marian's death but have come to terms with it. However, WHY DID THE WRITERS HAVE TO KILL CARTER?!????!! THAT IS UNFORGIVABLE!! There was no reason for it! Why must they deny us the pretty??

on 2008-01-13 10:37 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
YAY for your reaction post! Now the season finally feels over. - Hee, I'm... flattered if bewildered. To be honest, I wasn't necessarily planning on a full reaction post because I thought no one would care this long after the actual air-date but then certain f-listers kept nudging me...

And yes, CARTER! *weeps bitter tears* I wanted to keep him so bad. And do dirty, dirty things to him.

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on 2008-01-13 11:45 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] precious-rosie.livejournal.com
This series has left me with no doubt that the camera person is clearly in love with Allan. The shots of his arse were plentiful, long and lingering; plus who-ever had the bright idea of having him tied up wearing those black trousers showing off that incredible tight arse to its advantage, deserves a fucking medal!

* And don't get me started on those collarbones of his. :::iz ded:::

* Allan even calls himself a 'Whipping Boy'! Oh yes!!!

* Allan says that he knows which side his bread is buttered. And his arse no doubt! ;-D

* Allan/Guy bedroom scene: " I'm your boy. I'm nothing without you. I should have let you take care of me!' Srsly! I could have written that myself! ;-D

* Allan/Guy stable scene: 'kissing in the moonlight' Again, this is fic writing itself!

* Sheriff to Guy: "Your boy Allan, he doesn't love you anymore - "

and so on and so forth....

I'm still in denial and for me, those last 45 minutes of the finale did not happen. It lost credibility for me as soon as everyone reached the Holy Land. Aside from the lovingly long, lingering shots of Allan's arse whilst he was tied up, the reminder of finale was complete and utter crapola and wasted what could have been a blinding exit to this series.

Why oh why were we given 12 brilliantly written episodes and then get handed steaming pile of poo for No.13?

So yeah, still grieving but I'm writing fic; loads of dirty, filthy steaming piles of erotic fic with Allan/Guy and M/A/G-ness that will get me through the next 9 months or so...

btw: I have friended you, hope you don't mind. x

on 2008-01-14 11:39 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
The Allan/Guy bedroom scene made my eyes literally bug out off my head. It was so incredibly blatant I couldn't quite beleive the writers had actually put in there, with the back rubbing and "I'm you boy" and god, it really was like a prelude to a NC-17 fanfic.

I found the ending all rather exhilarating though I am sad that they effectively broke up so many possible ships. I liked Will and Djaq and don't want them to leave the show. And of course Guy's characterisation just took an irredeemable nose dive, it's difficult to see any hope of redemption for him after what he did.

But yeah, you're right, there's always fic! Looking forward to what you and the rest of the fandom produces...

I noticed, have friended you back :)

on 2008-01-14 01:59 am (UTC)
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Kalila and Dimna are the titles of two versions of arabic fables, at least thats what I thought, so djaq was probably making it up

on 2008-01-14 11:32 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
Ah, thanks. Yeah, I was wondering if Djaq just made it up...

on 2008-01-14 10:51 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ginnystar.livejournal.com
KAT! OMG WHHHHHY is it over now?? *clings*

Allan himself elaborates and tells Marian he’s “just the whipping boy around here, the packing boy”.

Srsly. I bet the writers found out through fandom that Allan is a sub and Guy needed someone to take out his Marian related frustrations on and... well, there we have it. ♥

I think the Sheriff is more outraged about the fact that Guy kept secrets from him that about Marian being the Nightwatchman in the first place.

Guy is obviously his whipping boy. As we all know, whipping boys aren't supposed to tell lies, they're just supposed to be all submissive and listen to everything they're told to do. XD

Oh Djaq. Oh Djaq! Oh, oh, oh… Oh Will! I can’t even. Oh my babies! WILL’S SMIIIIIIIILE. Their little faaaaaaaces! *explodes from the cuteness* I watched this scene with hands over my mouth (literally) and squeaked. D’aaaawwwwwwww x infinity! And when Will says: “And the way you will always, always be a woman.” I made a noise akin to hhhhnnnggghhhhtakemenow! and melted into a puddle of oestrogen. No lie.

OH MY GIDDY. You what REALLY got me? The way Will's reaction changed. From that TENSENESS and slight fear and anticipation and how you could so tell he wanted to know so badly but at the same time would have preferred her to not say anything at at in case it's something he doesn't want to hear and then it changes! He begins to look hopeful but it's like he CAN'T BELIEVE she might be talking about him and Djaq's crushing self-realization that might have come too late and the regrets on her face! And then Will's able to tell her eveything he feels inside that he's kept hidden for SO LONG (come on, at least a year, right?) and OMG.

fff. I have to go now, but I'll add to this later.

on 2008-01-14 11:49 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
*clings back* I DON'T KNOOOOOOOOW!! All good things etc. I guess.

I bet the writers found out through fandom that Allan is a sub and Guy needed someone to take out his Marian related frustrations on and... - I don't doubt this for a minute. Judging from some of the stuff that has been cropping up in the canon I think it's obvious that they're raiding the fandom for ideas. I'm fully expecting some of these discussions to materialise next season.

Sheriff/Guy/Allan is one kinky pile of power dynamics where Guy is a switch and Sheriff is just purely evil abusive top. If only there were some BDSM support groups in those days...

And yeah, your description of the scene is spot-on. The hope blooming on Will's face was like a freaking sun-rise, just absolutely beautiful. *wipes tears* Although I still want Allan to get into that circle of love.

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on 2008-01-14 12:18 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] wyntertwilight.livejournal.com
OMF, you are my new favourite person. Your review was HILARIOUS! And actually summed up alot of what I was thinking too.

Allan is all sorts of love. Words cannot express how much I adore him, and the fact he finally came back into the gang. YAY!

Carter dying? The writers can just fuck off and die aswell, that was the most pointless and unforgivable thing ever, and I will never get over it.

Will/Djaq, yay! But NAY for leaving them in the Holy Land.

Guy killing Marian? Like dubya tee eff?! There's definitely no coming back for him now :-(

There's more, but I'm posting my own reaction post today, and if I copy and paste my favourite bits from yours, I'll end up pasting ALL of it. Love! I'm glad you enjoyed the finale though! And were as emotionally involved as the rest of us :-D

on 2008-01-14 01:48 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
\o/ Well, it's not often I get to be anyone's favourite person so I shall relish this while it lasts *gg*

I'm happy Allan is back with the gan, though in my mind he should stay with Will and Djaq in a happy domestic threesome...

*nodnod* Carter's death was completely unnecessary. It added nothing to the plot and only removed yet another familiar face from next season...

I'm pretty scared Guy will go completely psycho now. Of course one possible outcome is that the next (and final?) season will end in Guy sacrificing himself for the greater good in an effort to make up for what he did...

I was totally emotionally involved. Intellectually I know that RH is hardly the height of modern TV drama, but somehow it ends up plucking my heart-strings every single time. The fandom has a lot to do with it. It's still relatively small and as a consequence incredibly warm and welcoming *snuggles fellow RH fangirls*

on 2008-01-14 05:11 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] theshrub-eline.livejournal.com
true carter was only in 3 episodes and i got very fond of him maybe they should make him back a live 'cause me cry's me want carter again !!!
oeh idea maybe somebody that looks like him (ff course jospeh kennedey has to play him) but isn't carter but family of carter like a long lost twin brother or so dunno
i want carter baaaaccckkk *runs crying to bedroom*

on 2008-01-14 08:46 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
Heh, Carter's long lost twin brother turning up would be an awesome cliché - especially if he turned out to be nothing like Carter but maybe a quiet mousy type...

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on 2008-01-14 06:22 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] enchantersnight.livejournal.com
Oh Much! I find it difficult to follow your plan of distraction and self-sacrifice when you keep stripping as you explain it.

yes very difficult to listen when he is taking off clothes :)

Much's speech to Robin, too raw to go into :( will skip to Carter! hmm very much liking your mini fic (don't lie it was too)

Oh oh going back to how Much can look so good dying of heatstroke and crying! (hugs him)

Was a little (read alot) upset at how Carters demise was glossed over, managed not to cry during Marian's (probably helped by the fact that I can cope with anyone but Sam Troughton crying)

Wants Much/Carter fic too :)

on 2008-01-14 09:01 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
Much's speech to Robin, too raw to go into - I'm pretty broken up about it myself *snivels*

very much liking your mini fic (don't lie it was too) - that wasn't fic, that was just me splurging my dirty fantasies onto the page...

Sam Troughton is bad for my mental stability...

Yeah, someone should get right on that Much/Carter fic...

on 2008-01-14 08:27 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] lolabobs.livejournal.com
Um… Why does Guy know Robin’s birthday? But Marian obviously doesn’t?

I thought she did. I 'read it' as she saying "It is.." then realising she probably shouldn't know, so then pretending she didn't..

GUY STFU! Whyyyyyyyyy? There was no need to tell that, you moron! I think Guy told the sheriff only after Allan had spilled the beans with his 'you're good, I'm better' comment - Guy has to reclaim his place at the Sheriff's side and right hand man - much of this episode is about the Sheriff and he reaffirming themselves! The Sheriff tests Guy a couple of times, and Guy chooses him every time - and don't forget when Allan goes and Sheriff says 'it's better with just the two of us'

The Sheriff slashes them too! “Kissing in the moonlight?” Aahahahahaaa!!!
It was *such* a slashy ep - this, the kissy Gissy.. oh so much!

And then…. OMG FUCKING FINALLY!!!! Much says what we’ve been saying OMG! I was bouncing and squeeling and Hurrah for Much. (This is exactly the sort of thing I wanted when I craved Much angry and talking and oh! And Robin's denial until the others confirmed it, and Oh Much! And I know it was heartfelt etc etc , But I still didn't feel Robin's excuse for treating Much so poorly was particularly valid, Much could represent the humanity within him, not the killer. It all seemed very easy to dismiss. Boo! And Much forgives so easily.

The whole Guy dreamscene? OMG? I'm suprised you didn't hear me squeaking in disbelief from where you were!

“The Crusader’s Frontier” – WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? Do your history homework writers

I lolled at the location subtitles throughout - Portsmouth Road? The Inn on The Portsmouth Road? So very specific!

I can’t believe he’s irredeemable, even now I don't have a specific response to this bit, it's just so bouncy. He chose his Sheriff...

The whole strung out to die thing? Ridiculously hot (No pun intended) and how canon/explicit/screaming it from the rooftops are they gonna make Much's love for Robin? (note I don't say Much/Robin - I'm not liking Robin so much, I think he is dismissive of my Much!) - but oh the love and the confessins and the tears... and then the wedding, which was made bearable only by having Much in the background breaking his little heart (and yes! Such a valid point - why have him in the frame if this were just a traditional hearts and flowers Marion and Robin moment?)

EFJLKGfglksjrgasrgjlklkdsf

!!!

I……


Gotta love this reaction - I was a little shocked... (not upset mind, but shocked yes!) - Oh but did you see Guy's face? Just as he did it - as the sword went in, the look of .. disbelief? Oh there will be such angst and woe and he WILL need comforting. Some tears before bedtime with his Sheriff perhaps? Or (my favourite favourite kink) Bitter fighting between he and Robin that turns into bitter, angry kissing and smex?

Not really sure what this means for a season 3 - Can't see Djaq and Will being tolerated in teh Holy Land, and if they *don't* come back the 'Merry Men' will be somewhat depleted? And as for dead Marian? Hmmm... I don't see how they can bring her back with any level of integrity, but? Well


Sorry this is such a HUGE comment, but I said I was waiting for you to come back! No one in my little corner of the world watches!

on 2008-01-14 09:59 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
I adore long comments! I can't believe that I wrote an over 3000 word episode reaction post after all... You should scurry over to [livejournal.com profile] robinhoodbbc to meet fellow RH fangirls.

You are possibly right about Marian's reaction... though perhaps she'd forgotten to get him a present? Just seemed weird that she wasn't there to celebrate it.

Yeah, Allan did spill the beans about Marian being capable of something like that, but there was no need to reveal that she was actually the Night Watchman.

I still didn't feel Robin's excuse for treating Much so poorly was particularly valid, Much could represent the humanity within him, not the killer. - See, where Robin says "I have to free of them (memories)" I fully expected Much to ask if that means he then want to be free of him too. Because that's how it came across to me. Robin should have accepted Much's help instead of pushing him away, it would have been better for both of them. Stupid men.

I get what you're saying about the love between Robin and Much... I've written long passionate meta about it elsewhere... in some of the previous reviews I think. Basically about how Much's love for Robin is different/stronger than Robin's for Much and how Much knows this himself.

The whole strung out to die thing? Ridiculously hot - Sometimes I think there is something seriously wrong with me because I so like watching pretty men suffer... But then my f-list supports most my perversions so it's all good!

Bitter fighting between he and Robin that turns into bitter, angry kissing and smex? - Ahahaha, well you might be interested in this little comment fic (http://kat-lair.livejournal.com/81283.html?thread=1238403#t1238403) then that [livejournal.com profile] ginnystar and I wrote in, erm, back in October...

I am still rooting for Djaq/Will/Allan OT3... If they somehow try to bring Marian back after a sword through her middle and being buried into ground... Let's just say that I'm expecting flying pigs in the very next scene.

on 2008-07-22 02:56 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] marymack19.livejournal.com
This whole episode consisted me sitting on my couch and snarling whenever someone with a sword came even remotely near my Much. And the scene in the barn eee. I ship Robin/Much pretty srsly, and just this whole episode (whole two episodes) made me squeee.

on 2008-07-28 01:41 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
Hee! It was a pleasant surprise to receive a comment on an entry as old as this *waves hi* Yes, Much/Robin is my heartbreaky unrequited OTP and to see Much finally say what's what counts as one of the best fannish TV moments of the year for me. I can't wait for season 3, there will undoubtedly be a lot of flaily episode commentaries this autumn... *gg*

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on 2008-12-01 11:48 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] judin.livejournal.com
Hai thar! I’ve made a tradition of reading your review after watching every episode (had to download, so I’ve only seen them this past month) and now we’re at the finish, so I figured I had better comment for once. And I realize this post is almost a year old and you’ve probably moved to another fandom, but hey…I don’t care! :D

I’m a little surprised as I read other people’s reaction to the finale, as some seem to hate it while I thought it was the best episodes yet! That’s taste for you I guess; it will always be divided.

Now I’m mostly a Sheriff/Guy/Allan-girl, but the Robin/Much is really impossible to ignore, and Much is impossible not to love all on his own, so obviously I’ve been cheering for them too, and the lack of resolution has left me quite bitter, until the birthday bash! Where Much got all his feelings out and God it felt good! For me, but probably him as well, and everyone taking his side and Robin realizing that Much was right and guuuuh… *melts* I did, however, wish for a little more personal stuff, not just “I’m mean to you because I have nightmares about corpses”, but more like “I’m mean to you because I think that if I allow myself to truly look at you and accept your love then I might not be able to marry Marian after all”.

Carter had “molest me” written all over him. It was the hair, I tell you, the tussled hair. I didn’t even like him in “Get Carter”, but I squeed so much when he appeared with the King. And oh, the slash, the slash running rampant through the entire two episodes!

After the “Kissing in the moonlight”-scene, I thought, “I have to write a fic about this.” But then I realized that unless they actually had sex right there on the porch, I couldn’t have made it any more obvious. And then came Guy’s dream scene, and I pretty much died right there in my chair. Especially when Guy woke up and Vaisey held him down and Guy was all uncertain and nervous, as if he’s expecting molestation. (He probably did get molested; they just faded to black before we got to see it.) If they scale up the gay any more they’ll have to R-rate the show.

I'm kind of happy about Marion dying too actually, even though I shouldn't say it. It's just nice that the heroes can actually die in this show; it makes it more unpredictable and exciting. And of course Robin will be all about killing Guy now, won't he, and Guy will either go all broken and just be the Sheriff's puppet on a string or he'll attempt suicide and Allan will leave the gang again and come back to the castle because Giz needs him! *rambling*

(I’ve posted a review with more of my thoughts as the episodes progressed on my journal. I’ve already made this comment long enough and like I said, you’re probably gone from this fandom by now)

Thank you for entertaining reviews!

on 2008-12-04 02:41 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
Well hello there! How amazing to receive a comment on this, I'm really surprised, but so pleased that people are still reading the reviews (seriously, so cool!). Yes, it's been a year, and yes I have other fandoms now... But then again, you must have noticed that I'm very multi-fandom and once I fall in love with something I never really let it go... So, RH is still very close to my heart even though I'm not active in the fandom at the moment. However, I have firm plans to resume weekly reviews once the show returns to the screen! It's a tradition, and so much fun!

Awww Much. Never have I wanted to cozen a character so... *feeds him cookies* I'm so very on board with your version of Robin's feelings “I’m mean to you because I think that if I allow myself to truly look at you and accept your love then I might not be able to marry Marian after all” - It's such a case study in unrequited love, idek.

And oh the slash was glorious indeed. Guy's dream scene still stands out for me as one of the most blatantly homoerotic scenes outside gayporn. I can't believe they got away with it, and maintain how the writers clearly read the interwebs for inspiration.

Allan/Guy appeals to me on several level (some of them very kinky and x-rated) and the whole thing fills me with conflict: on one hand Allan is all happy to be back with the gang, on the other his relationship with Guy was filled with tension and delicious D/s overtones...

Thanks again for dropping by; long comments are always welcome and it's wonderful to know someone is reading my reviews etc. Hope to see you around the fandom when season 3 starts.

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